i am a big superhero fan and was looking forward to "the defenders".
the first two episodes are great but then ... liberalism happens.
one of the heroes (luke cage, big black guy) goes on this crazy rant, like a liberals wet dream of the bravehearth speech.
That bit stood out to me as well. It maybe is their attempt to relate to the zeitgeist. I didn't take it as propaganda. Just as the reflection of a characters development. Luke Cage (did you watch his series?) would say something like that.
Try not to be so sensitive maybe. That might help.
i know you'll be involuntarily disassociated if you unrepentantly accepted a blood transfusion; and i know you'll be disfellowshipped for apostasy if you openly disagreed with watchtower teaching.
what if you have done none of the above but simply respectfully refused to fill out the dpa without giving any reason for your refusal - so they can't accuse you of openly disagreeing with the no-blood doctrine and df you for apostasy.
they don't know why you're refusing and you're not giving them the reason - and you're being very respectful.. what can they do?.
Steve,
At least in the US, each group overseer is currently tasked with getting a copy of everyone's filled out DPA (not really a DPA....but you know).
So until he can cross this little item of his list, people get reminded often.
I have a friend who is not filling out his card, but is still an active JW. His overseer sends weekly e mails or reminders to put it together. He just ignores them. He currently does not have all of his privileges, and my guess is that those would not come as long as this thing hasn't been checked off.
We discussed his potential response to them should they press. Here is what we came up with.
"I have family in the medical field, and there is a great deal that can go wrong with even basic medical information in the hands of people I may not necessarily know very well or trust in certain cases. I'm comfortable handling this on my own and without intervention from the brothers, but thanks for the willingness. Oh and you guys might want to study up on the local laws....HIPPA regulations are in effect when you are storing medical directives, and there could be several ways you guys might be in violation of those regulations."
john cedars latest youtube video refers to last weekend's wt study article which some have referred to on another thread but i am truly outraged at the continuing misogynist attitude toward women.
not only did that study article say if women have a family to care for it will stop them gossiping or meddling into other people's affairs, lloyd shares on his video a talk by sam herd from when he was a c.o in 1971.
(i hope he has since changed his opinion!
peak attendance 7100. baptised 38 mixed bag of old and young.
youngest age 10. saw no brothers with beards.
better than average .50% growth.
JW's seem to think beards are ok now. in the "Christian to decide" category.
watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.
) why is this so important?
first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!
Long hair girl,
Ironically the one thing the congregation could actually stand to hear about....like if someone with a sexual criminal past is in their midst.....is the one thing that gets confidential status.
TTDTT's point is true though. You are right there are no guarantees, but there are also good guys out there that don't just blab. I wouldn't say they are a majority.
trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).
my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.
that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.
PE,
Made me angry to read this. Your little girl is adorable. I have a little boy the same age. We should talk goats and camel dowry sometime to keep it all in the apostate family. Haha.
One thing I was unsure of. Is your ex-wife no longer going to take her to the meetings? If so.....this one experience was worth it....and a win. Your ex may not want to live an authentic life yet, but not taking your daughter (who is still very small, and despite your influence, still very capable of being indoctrinated), is a win.
that is....if I understood that right.
I honestly feel sorry for all the other kids there saying those things as well. Being raised to be little assholes isn't their fault. Its so ingrained from a young age......its very sad.
i want something different on my next pizza!.
I had pizza at California Pizza Kitchen the other day. I kind of wanted to punch myself for ordering the jamaican jerk sweet and spicy pizza. But you know what......it was delicious.
Maybe not really pizza.....but it was damn fine.
that pizza they cook for 90 seconds at crazy high heat.......that about my favorite type right now if its made right.
i wanted to get people's opinion on something.
how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.
there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.
I'm actually split on this. When someone approaches a cart with a "story" that isn't really true.....I bristle a bit. Of course that story IS true, just not of the person speaking.
The database could be a mess of it was just downloaded and posted. It would contain innocent people, rip open old wounds, and more. So I prefer that be declassified in a larger court case for the sake of transparency.
As far as recording JC's.....I have zero issue with it. this is because if you requested to record it, they would not meet with you. they would however carry out the judgement phase of the meeting without you present. Since there is no legal protection for you because of the first ammendment.....record away.
has anyone else heard this?
a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?
a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.
You have to shun non-disfellowshipped people now?
Says who? I don't recall that being a clear direction and i followed last years convention pretty tight.
i have noticed another popular pattern of behaviour amongst witnesses in recent years.. many, and i mean lots of ones with instagram accounts have closed the wife's account, and have started a "couple's" account instead.
also, for families.
the children's accounts have been closed, and the husband starts a "family account".. it is mainly on the husband's device, and seemingly under his control.
Ummmmm....actually I have seen this in plenty of non-JW's as well. A friend of mine has a joint facebook account due to his wife, saying she would prefer it.
So controlling?.....yeah i think so. because of being a JW? nah.
